Doubles 3/4/07

["Tiger"]

For those of you who were playing in my group this past sunday I just wanna apologize for going off on that couple at number 15. It was a very unfortunate incident and hopefully it'll never happen again. But this does bring up an important issue. We do share the park with other people (walkers, families, runners, etc.). This particular family was very ignorant and refused to except an apology and helpful suggestion but most families are perfectly fine with sharing the park with us as long as we show them some respect as far as warning them when shots are coming and not acting like we own the park. So lets just be aware. Again sorry if I made you guys feel uncomfortable but sometimes we all get a little carried away.

[Glen Iris Southpaw]

Do you mean ignorent like Deliverance, or ignorant like they have no idea that people are hurling plastic objects all across the park.

["Tiger"]

I've never seen deliverence, but I'd say ignorant in the "uneducated, us against the world, everyone's out to get us and we have to just tell everyone else to f**k off" sort of way.

[drdisc]

I heard that if you accidently hit a car that is driving through the park , it is an automatic birdie.
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[Jebb]

hey, it could have been worse... like getting bitten on your throwing elbow by a large white german shepherd ;)

[scraps]

You should definitely watch Deliverance. A cornerstone of our age.

[Jebb]

"You got a purdy mouth"

"Squeal like a piggy!!"

[ditchell]

a sign on 15's green might not be a bad idea.

in english and spanish, of course.

[i2rt]

a sign on 15's green might not be a bad idea.

in english and spanish, of course.

Here is your starter set of phrases.:D
I am sure Ralph can help with any that I have missed.

Watch out for flying disc.
Reloj hacia fuera para el disco del vuelo.

Get the hell out off the fairway!
¡Conseguir el infierno del fairway!

Fore!
¡Delantero!

and for Tiger, the old stanby...
Ralph I think you might want to translate this one off line.;)
Pinche naco!:mad:

["Tiger"]

I do actually speak spanish ;)

[Glen Iris Southpaw]

hmmmm i know pinche but not nacho....but sounds like a bad joke

[willsfc]

we were in athens once, a bunch of people were playing soccer(of mexican descent it looked like), one of the shots was heading toward the field, and one of the golfers yelled Quartos! (or however it is spelled)

It was kinda funny

[ditchell]

we were in athens once, a bunch of people were playing soccer(of mexican descent it looked like), one of the shots was heading toward the field, and one of the golfers yelled Quartos! (or however it is spelled)

It was kinda funny


haha. i wonder if "fore!" is just a english/american thing...

[i2rt]

hmmmm i know pinche but not nacho....but sounds like a bad joke

OK my little bit of spanish slang should get us through this.
Pinche is the guy who pinches the dough at a bakery. Basically means "damn small or unimportant."
Naco was a word made up by a comedian and has stuck in the Mexican lexicon. It really doesn't have a meaning but would be loosly translated like hillbilly, redneck, mullet head or something like that.

we were in athens once, a bunch of people were playing soccer(of mexican descent it looked like), one of the shots was heading toward the field, and one of the golfers yelled Quartos! (or however it is spelled)

Cuatro would work but the other players in your group may think you are telling them you are expecting to get a four on the hole.:p

[scraps]

Here is your starter set of phrases.:D
I am sure Ralph can help with any that I have missed.

Watch out for flying disc.
Reloj hacia fuera para el disco del vuelo.

Get the hell out off the fairway!
¡Conseguir el infierno del fairway!

Fore!
¡Delantero!

and for Tiger, the old stanby...
Ralph I think you might want to translate this one off line.;)
Pinche naco!:mad:

So, are we speaking Mexican or Spanish?

Watch for flying discs.
Cuidado. Discos voladores.

Get the hell off the fairway.
Favor de moverse. (polite)
Movéte! (impolite)
La puta que te parió! Movéte! (vulgar)

Fore!
Cuidado!


Hope that helps. And I want to encourage all of us to be as understanding as possible of all other languages and cultures that share the park with us. Some of these people have absolutely no idea that they're even in a disc golf course. Hopefully they'll catch on, but in the meantime lets all try to be as polite as possible.

We had a middle eastern family on the fairway at 16 the other day and they didn't speak any english. The dad thought we were trying to toss the frisbee at him, like to play catch. It was sad. They just didn't understand. But after I drove my best shot ever (on 16) and we finished the hole, I think they caught on.

Anyway.

Y, Jeremy, no sabía que hablabas español. ¿Donde aprendistes? ¿En el colegio? ¿Has viajado a algun país de habla hispana?

[Glen Iris Southpaw]

Good post scrapps...we should be nice to the folks who are unaware of disc flying threw the park but have i do have a prob. with people who throw over me I've been hit by a disk and it hurts.
Funny strory though I did skip a drive on 16 off the hood of a lincoln parked on the road by the pavillion. Nikki and I were playing one day and the lincoln was parked in front of the basket at 12. Looked like the type of illegal activity that normally goes on more at night at gw. So we hollered down to them and they drove on. We come to 16 and the john and his hooker are parked down on the road at the pavillion and I told nikki i was going to hit the car. My best drive ever on 16 as well. Skipped off the hood and went another 40 feet or so.

[Justin L]

One thing that beats the language barrier is a smile.

Regardless of how the people approach you, walk up to them with a smile when you greet them and they'll get they idea that you're just in the park having a good time too, and they'll yield to whatever you indicate.

I think most of the problems we run into is because the people don't understand that they crossed our path. They probably think we are targeting them ("This is a huge park, why does this guy have to throw Frisbees RIGHT here"). So greeting the people with a smile and a brief explanation of the game does WONDERS. And you'd be amazed what you can indicate without speaking a word.

["Tiger"]

Y, Jeremy, no sabía que hablabas español. ¿Donde aprendistes? ¿En el colegio? ¿Has viajado a algun país de habla hispana?

Si, yo hablo un pocito. Aprendí in colegio. Ha sido muy largo, pero ya recuerdo mucho. Tomá siete años. Me gustaria muy mucho ir a España.

[Thomas M]

Yeah most folks are just unaware there is a defined course. GW is getting crazy packed in the afternoons.

Traffic to Trussville gets me also. I still may not be able to make it when the time changes but on weekends I think Trussville is the place to be.

Speaking of, TK and Joe play Wed afternoons at 4:30, anyone have a regular weekend time they play? Can we start a 10:00 game in Trussville on Saturdays and Sundays? At least assume the 10:00 game is in Trussville on the Sundays doubles is there?

Thomas

[drdisc]

I bet everyone here would learn Spanish if we moved to Mexico or South America. Go figure!
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[kidkinetix]

Yeah the incident was never really an incident, a disc was thrown near a family & they started bitchen bout something that could have happened.
Hell you dont see me running to the georgia lottery commision bitchen cause
I almost won.

[Jebb]

I bet everyone here would learn Spanish if we moved to Mexico or South America. Go figure!
since we'd all be there I'd probably speak english :p

[Thomas M]

since we'd all be there I'd probably speak english :p

BAH HA HA HA........
nice.

[Glen Iris Southpaw]

WHY 150 CLASS?
By: Ed Headrick 001




There is currently little information about why there is a need for a weight restricted class of golf discs.Many people are unaware that the disc with which they now play indeed has a maximum weight allowable of 8.3 grams per centimeter of diameter and a minimum diameter of 21 centimeters, maximum up to 200 grams at 24 centimeters.

Why was this restriction made in the first place? In the early 1960's as a Vice President of Wham-O, I was faced with major markets such as Dallas TX, Oklahoma City, OK, etc. that are in the nation's windbelt. They had a comparative few days per year where the early pro model 108 grams could be thrown. We all felt the need of a heavier specific gravity (exceeding 1.1) was required, but none were available in the market place.The problem was the effective use of national television dollars.

I set up a test program and came up with an interesting material that glowed in the dark as a plus that would provide more weight and be compatible with the plastic. We also found that calcium carbonate and barium would perform the same function; however, they didn't glow.

Now, we had the capability of making a 119 gram into a 300+ gram disc. Testing indicated that a good safe weight was around a twenty percent (20%) increase over standard .97 plastic. A 119 could weigh 142 grams in a glow material and was generally adhered to as a maximum allowable weight for early golf discs as well. Remember, a disc of 106-108 grams could be brushed away like a fly, but 140 grams was getting heavy for a park picnic or a beach. We lost Central Park in New York and Waikiki Beach in Hawaii and many other lesser Frisbee sanctuaries to even these discs.

The fact that almost all disc golf courses are on public multiple use land was a major concern in the early days of our Sport. Seymour Greeben, Director of the largest park department in the world, LA County, painted a clear picture for us: being hit with an occasional Frisbee was okay, but injuring ANYONE was not. One injury and the course was history.

Starting with his approval for Oak Grove, we developed a peripheral use policy that avoided high-use areas, walkways, horsetrails and bikepaths like the plague. Then came La Mirada with all kinds of free advice from friendly disc players.

La Mirada was long by today's standards. We cut it back to a reasonable length after testing with pipes for targets. Unfortunately a little long for a 140-150 gram or a 119 g ram class disc, leaving the market open for smaller heavier discs like 19 cm at 250 gram.

Mr. Greeben was given one of these weapons and called me on the carpet. I begged him to leave the course alone and let us try to police our own problems. We started at 6 grams per cm and the players yelled so loudly that we kept edging it up to the 8.3 gram/cm standard we have today. If Seymour Greeben was satisfied at 8.3 in those days of the late 1970's, I wonder what he would have said about a 180 gram Viper?

The disc technology has advanced to a point where discs are being thrown over 400 feet. These discs are sold to amateurs, some of whom are strong and capable of long throws once in awhile. On most golf courses that means a lost disc, lost time and some hazard to players, cameramen and other users of our parks.

Then came a couple of accidental hits in Japan's Showa Park. No one was injured, but you may have surmised that now no discs more than 150s gram are all that is allowed. Sensing this inherent problem our disc could create in parts in the United States, Dan Roddick and several others including myself, thought that starting a 150 class would at least give us a foot in the door (or disc in the basket) if, God forbid, something similar to Showa Park happens.

So now you know the 150 class is to preserve the future of our sport and is currently the standard for Recreational Disc Golf Association (RDGA) courses, not the law.

On a happy note, our 150 Cyclone will outthrow a 176 Cyclone, Isaac Newton figured that out before I was born, which was a while ago.

Try one before you pass judgment and don't allow a fairway that will cross a pedestrian area. Together we can protect the future of our sport, the sport we all love.


*Perhaps with that in mind we could all take the time to realize the park is for all to share*