Golden George

[mpetre]

Is there any talk within the club or amongst others about doing another Golden George this year?

[Justin L]

Well, personally, I'd love to see it occur again. I would even volunteer to TD it since I helped with the original. I haven't brought it up for two reasons. First, it's a TON of work, just ask Kris. Second, the purpose of the tournament was to decide on a USDGC representative and help fund his/her trip to the USDGC. This year the tournament rep will be decided in a different way.

I definitely think its something worth putting up for discussion after we get the club formation stuff out of the way.

[Tim Keith]

what other way will it be decided, do you know justin.
we could also do it at civitan, it is tough enough without rope, plus we could add some holes and tweek a few to make it as hard as you want.

TK

["Tiger"]

I'm definately a fan of bringing it back for a few reasons:

1) Its nice to place a course in a "championship setup". Its amazing how adding some string here and there really turns GW from a rec friendly course to one that wrecks havoc even on pros.

2) There are some really nice pin placements that don't get used because of both safety reasons and the rec. nature of the course. The average golfer at GW doesn't want to see 5, 11, 13, or 16 in their super long positions, but there are a few of us who like that challenge (and playing the position without the basket just isn't the same :p )

3) I think its a tournament that could become our stable here. I think it needs some tweaking, but what tourny doesn't.

I'm with justin though, it does take a LOT of work. Laying out string alone is a huge pain in the ass, but if we decide to do it (maybe not even necessarily this year) I would be more than happy to donate whatever time I had to help run it. I would suggest that we work on one thing at a time. Reading the forum its great to see all the input, but what scares me is all the ideas being thrown around. Its an exciting time for us, because we're bringing the club back to "official" status, but lets not make too many engagements we can't physically keep. Just my two cents... damn that was long :cool:

[mpetre]

I agree to a point that we don't want to get too many coals in the fire at a time, but I also think it sounds like this tournament could be something that makes DGB stand out amongst other clubs and cities. I would be willing to devote time to a tournament like the Golden and co-direct with Justin so he can play (I think I'd have just as much fun not playing but getting to see a really quality tourney.) Perhaps it wouldn't be the entry point to the USDGC, but most of us will never get to play a course like that unless we make it happen ourselves. This fits very nicely with the mapping project I have ongoing, so just let me know when/if the time is right.

I do know that if I were to get involved with a project of that magnitude it would probably be the only one for the year. (What PDGA sanctioned events do we know will happen this year in B'Ham??)

[MAJ DG]

As I see it for now, we've got 1) the basic aches and pains of trying to get the club off of the ground, 2) Vik trying to line up an Ice Bowl, 3) Bob volunteering us to host the SNDC, and 4) a chance to keep what others described as a superb tournament (Golden George) going. We also seem to have a great core group of enthusiasts volunteering to pitch in any way they can t make the above happen. I think we can pull all of it off! Oh, and weekly doubles and the occasional DGB mini.

Really, once we get #1 accomplished, the other three should be doable.

[bobsatter]

I would be happy to step up and run this event. It was because there was no Tax Tourney but....... I think Addie made the decision to award the spot at the BLAST which is unfair for many reasons. First and foremost is you have to be a PDGA member to even play."before anyone says anything I know you have to if u where to play the USDGC but " I also think it is time for the players of BAMA to vote on how this process is done. Not one year a Brother in law, then a different format each year.

Either way with the clubs help events of the future should be a whole lot easier to run. Let me know if you want me to step up.
Bob

[Justin L]

As I see it for now, we've got 1) the basic aches and pains of trying to get the club off of the ground, 2) Vik trying to line up an Ice Bowl, 3) Bob volunteering us to host the SNDC, and 4) a chance to keep what others described as a superb tournament (Golden George) going. We also seem to have a great core group of enthusiasts volunteering to pitch in any way they can t make the above happen. I think we can pull all of it off! Oh, and weekly doubles and the occasional DGB mini.

Ok Richard...when you spell it all out like that it makes it seem like entirely to much work....haha.

[Parkntwoputt]

Using the Rocket City Supertour (Blast) to select the USDGC rep? Well, that is not entirely unfair, last year a single tournament was used to select the state rep.

What I see as unfair is that if the state rep was not going to get an entry, as the main purpose of the Golden George was, I worked really hard on raising the money needed to pay for TK's entry fee. I feel that if the 2007 state rep did not get a paid entry from the Huntsville tournament when they could have received one from a separate tournament then it is definitely unfair to the winner of the position.

Also, while the courses are 3/4 great at the Huntsville event (sans Brahan Springs) they in no way shape or form prepare someone for the type of competition for USDGC as a roped off course does. The Rocket City Supertour is merely an ordinary tournament where the course designs are concerned.

With Addie now living in Augusta, GA and is now the PDGA liaison for all State Coordinators, who is Alabama's State Coordinator? When does Addies term officially expire?

Despite the geographical distance, I am fully willing to consult and share all information/course designs I have if another Golden George is held. All you have to do is ask. I check these message boards quite frequently still.

[Tim Keith]

Is that how the USDGC state rep is going to be selected, at the rocket city super tour? is it set in stone? i have not heard about this until now.

TK

["Tiger"]

personally, whether the rep is selected from the super tour or a golden george type tourny doesn't really matter. The key is to make sure that everyone in the state is on the same level. Last year kris talked to addie and the necessary people to get the golden george as a selection for the USDGC, this year maybe Chris J. did the same thing. I think in the future there just needs to be better communication between the RCCG, DGB, HDG, and any of the other state golf clubs to organize a fair way of selecting the rep. A rotation system may be the best way of avoiding fires. I have no problems with the super tour being used to select the rep. While the Golden George did provide that USDGC "look" to it... competition at the "tourny formerly known as BLAST" provides better competition as it draws a larger crowd, at least for the time being.

[bobsatter]

Tiger, Kris..... I am just asking for the format to stay the same. This will make the third change in as many years. I also feel that an A tier event is not where it should be decided for various reasons.
1. there are several other events on that weekend
2. A tiers have a high cost of entry with very little return unless you are top 3
3. A tiers require u be a member "i know u have to be for the usdgc but,now were talking about 75 renewal & 75-100 entry fee to even try.
4. This is not very fair to the peopleof MOBILE as that is truly the hub of DG in alabama
5. I LIKE WHAT KRIS DID LAST YEAR BY HELPING PAY THE COST!!!! Nice job Straight, you set a great standard and I wanto see it continue!

Now back on topic, I already mentioned that I would run the event if need be. I would also be happy to check with Harold and Addie and present a good arguement as to why the Blast should not be the choice.

[Tim Keith]

I'm all for the golden george again :D :D

TK

[Justin L]

I think i'm correct in saying that the PDGA rep is the person that decides. So i guess it really comes down to what they think is best. So arguing is like arguing an opinion....maybe Addie can be convinced but I think its to late in the game for this year. Probably the best suggestion i could give is to get in touch with whomever is going to be the next state rep and start seeding your idea with them. It's just like politics, talk to your representative.

As far as the GG goes, I have a feeling it will make an appearance this year. ;)

I'm all for the golden george again :D :D

TK

I wonder why.... :D

[bobsatter]

I am not wanting an arguement but, a solid PLAN in place for years to come. It could be a series of events or whatever. I also feel strongly that if there was enough interest in bringing this back that the RCCG maybe persuaded in to it.

[mpetre]

Justin,

Are you up for making this a club ran / decided upon event? I say we put GG as one of the action items for the next DGB meeting. We can make decisions then and share the load in a way that makes sense.

[Justin L]

Yep, i'm just making my best attempt at shuffling feet until we get this election stuff over with.

As soon as we get that done we need to schedule a meeting for the SNDC's and we can figure out if we want to run/a date for the GG.

[drdisc]

UAH with ropes?
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["Tiger"]

definately a viable option. Like I said, the thing to do in the future is just make sure all the clubs, and I do mean all, get involved in the decision. One thing that could work is instead of just choosing one tournament, why not use multiple. A point system if you will. Since it can be argued that the ham, huntsvegas and mo-bile are the leading disc golf scenes, why not have a big tournament at each site (the Super Tour, Golden George, and whatever the southeners decide to throw on). Collect points based on finishes, and the top finisher gets the spot. That way EVERYONE can pitch in on the enrty fee, making that aspect easier AND we have a more unbiased decision making process. Because in terms of the tournaments you can't argue that you won't get the top quality competition in the Super Tour that you'd see at the USDGC, but then again, yes the ropes and OB at the Golden George give you that feel for a championship course design. I'm all for the GG again this year and hopefully we'll work out that rep thing later (if you really want the spot just go kick ass at the Super Tour... otherwise quit bitchin...)

[Justin L]

One thing that could work is instead of just choosing one tournament, why not use multiple.

I think thats a great option....but....The problem with that is that you most likely won't get the best disc golfer in the state. You'll get the guy who can afford/has the time to travel to all three tournaments. We're still to casual a sport to really get into a solid points system.

[Cotton Pickin' Bill]

Why not use the round ratings from ALL the PDGA tournaments in the state? Get the average rating from all rounds played in these events. You would have to make a minimum number of rounds played mandatory, maybe 50%-66% of total rounds.

I think one job of the PDGA state rep is to promote the growth of the PDGA. This type system should promote growth in number of PDGA members in the state plus a growth in PDGA tourneys in the south part of the state.

BTW, I plan to run for this office. Addie has said that she can no longer be state rep since she is working for the PDGA, but I do not know when the new rep will be elected.

[drdisc]

Bill, maybe Addie would let you become the interim Rep before the next election?
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[bobsatter]

Tiger, I like your point but, to say stop bitching and go play a super tour is well horse crap! Have you played one? I am so over the PDGA and the supertour label it is nothing more than higher entry fees and a better payout for the top 10 golfers in the WORLD! By the way the Blast is not a super tour but an A tier event.
How come anytime some one says something it is taken out of context? I know you are still somewhat new to Alabama and may think the format is ok. But, I speak for alot of folks when I say WE need a set standard for this selection process! If that is bitching then you should blame the REPS for the constant changing of the format. Should it be for the person who does the most for DG in Bama, should it be the best player, should it be my brother in law???????
Mosts states have gone to a format such as points in Mississippi. Georgia has a one day event at the SAME course to decide. Same thing with LA.
Anyway it is more than likely to late for this to change now but......


One last thing I have tried traveling to remote corners of the World to get in and may make the trip back to the UK if the shoulder can handle it.

Now, KRIS did an awesome job of making a fair test to choose the rep and I say that we continue it and I will see what JP and Harold say about another spot being added. Not bitching just trying to get this in STONE! Kinda hard to sketch it in my hard head thou.

Justin, lets get together and make this happen! We can still help fund the would be winner and they could still go up and try to get in on MONDAY! No need to go to some A tier event and piss away 175 cause that is like taking 10 chances on MONDAY.

One more thing at the blast will adavnced players be playing the exact same layout??? If not and this is where KRIS aced the test how will they have a chance at the spot?

["Tiger"]

unless I'm mistaken in ALL tournaments advanced usually plays the same layout as pro, there's really no need to seperate the two groups because advanced is usually the guys that want to play pro anyway but don't want to shell out the cash. I'm not saying we continue to make the state rep pick up in the air every year. I agree something needs to be done to make it a more fiar an unbiased decision making process but at the same time, it sounds like huntsville already stepped up for THIS YEAR. Again, I personally see no problem with playing an A tier to select the rep because again you're getting that competition. I also like the GG setup of the course. Its a communication issue between ALL clubs in birmingham to make a selection and I don't think just saying the GG should always be the way to do it is very fair for anyone but bham locals.

[Sivadenyaw]

Hello from Galapagos. Not much time and not too many opportunities for internet access. Hope all is well and everyone has a great time at the Mini. Can someone purchase a set of raffle tickets for me to have opportunity to win Monroe disc. I meant to take care of this last week but.... Jebb, TM, someone....

Thanks

Michael

[Parkntwoputt]

A lot of bigger events, A-tiers (super tour is their nickname, whether it is super or not is another question), and NT events, not only do the advanced players play a different setup, they play different courses, and sometimes different days. Some of the really large pro events are three days, while their simultaneous Am events are two days.

At this level, in the really large events, there is a vast disparity in the skill levels of pros and advanced players.

Of course with the limited options on the courses for the Huntsville tournament advanced and pro will play the same layout, but this is not the same for ALL events.

I think it SHOULD be this way...if you want to play the big boy courses, play with the big boys. I do like/feel that at smaller events, B,C,D and unsanctioned events, that pros/Adv should play the same layouts/courses. These events are a good litmus test for advanced players to contemplate the decision to play pro.

Maybe I am biased, but I think the Golden George should go on as a regular event even if it is not the qualifying event to select the state rep. But a system where all clubs get together to select the state rep, perhaps on either a point system or a rotating hosting system seems like the best way to go. It is not fair to have it in Birmingham every year even if it is in the most central location, because other cities have good courses to hold it on. But it is not fair to have it on either end of the state every year too. Rotation will help quash this problem.

Regardless of what city hosts the event, I do think that the testing course should be a yellow rope or heavy OB penalty course where errant shots are punished. UAH would be DEADLY with extra OB. And I am sure that Mobile has a course which could be converted to a similar style. Maybe a combination of the two suggestions? UAH, George Ward, and a Mobile course, each roped off, each one the players earn points towards qualifying, then the points winner will be the State Rep. Just an idea. Plus, if a person goes to all three events then they are serious about wanting the position. If a person does not, then the goal is just not that important to them.

[Justin L]

Hello from Galapagos. Not much time and not too many opportunities for internet access. Hope all is well and everyone has a great time at the Mini. Can someone purchase a set of raffle tickets for me to have opportunity to win Monroe disc. I meant to take care of this last week but.... Jebb, TM, someone....

Thanks

Michael

Gotcha covered Michael, hope the trip is going well! Take lots of pictures man!

["Tiger"]

I agree completely kris. And I would love to see the GG again. But if we're gonna do it, lets do it. and how bout the southern national doubles? whats the word on that?

[Justin L]

Maybe I am biased, but I think the Golden George should go on as a regular event even if it is not the qualifying event to select the state rep.

Man, considering the amount of work we put in on that I definitely expect it to make an appearance again this year. There's nothing else like it in the state of Alabama, and I think the uniqueness makes it special. I've just been waiting for the right time (i.e. after this club stuff) to start nailing down a date. Expect to get an email from me when that time occurs because i have a TON of questions and ideas that i want to get your feedback on..haha.

[bobsatter]

Tiger the sndc will go off as planned in July. Even better news is that we may get to host the 07 SNAC aswell:} This will be talked about in the next SN BOD meeting and I have put in the bid to cover for the New Albany site.

I know you all will have a ton of questions but, for now hold your breath and we may have one of the best events right in your own backyard. Good news Tiger that you did not cash at the CC so you can still play the SNAC!

keep your fingers crossed that BHAM has 2 out of the 3 championships but, I will need as much help as possiable.

[Justin L]

After a bit of thought, I want to say if the SNAC needs a home then we'll do what needs to be done. I think we have the people and the resources to do the event justice. Following Mobile is no easy task but I think we could do it.

My only request, if possible, is that if B'ham gets it that DGB be the official TD/club/whatever. I know the ams in Birmingham will put in a TON of work and I want to make sure everyone sees what we're doing. It's just the thing this club needs to put it on the map, in a hurry.

Good stuff Bob!

[Thomas M]

I agree with Bob that it needs to be decided and "set in stone" so that people can plan and prepare in advance. Now, what "it" is is the question and maybe we should ask those different states LA, GA, and MS how they like there programs.

One park one game every year would be the easiest to run and big changes like the GG made keeps a "Local course Expert" who can't play any other type course from winning. This is of course favors the golfers of that town most.

If its going to rotate we must have a several year plan so people can know what to expect well in advance and players can prepare accordingly.

If its points based it will be hard to administer and hard for most people to follow the events around the state and build up points with much regularity. This would also be the most difficult and time consuming to administer which is often a death sentence with DGer's.

The knowing in advance is the biggest part for example:
My in laws live in Mobile so I have a place to stay for free and am familiar with the courses. Knowing in advance the SNAC was going to be in Mobile let me make plans and practice up for it. I know I wont be able to travel many places and dont know many other courses well so this was my best chance year. Applying this to our qualifying situation if it rotates you will know the year the qualifyer is coming to your home town, favorite course, brothers hometown, etc, and you can be best prepared to take your best shot. If it changes all the time you'll never know until it happens and then your left with coulda shoulda woulda.

Thomas

[25322]

For the record I am unaware of the Rocket City Super Tournament being the event where the AL rep will be decided. We kinda would have liked to know that. Yes the advanced will be playing the same courses as the Pro's.

I do agree that the method should be consistent from year to year and be fair to all as is possible. I personally don't like any one event or course deciding who should be the rep. It should be as nuetral as possible, meaning no home court advantages, no temp course that all the locals got to play for a month prior, etc. I would suggest an average performance from a number of select events. But that too has drawbacks, not everyone can make every event, etc. I'd say you should at the very least propose some options and vote on it.



-David Hunt

[bobsatter]

For the record I am unaware of the Rocket City Super Tournament being the event where the AL rep will be decided. We kinda would have liked to know that. Yes the advanced will be playing the same courses as the Pro's.

I do agree that the method should be consistent from year to year and be fair to all as is possible. I personally don't like any one event or course deciding who should be the rep. It should be as nuetral as possible, meaning no home court advantages, no temp course that all the locals got to play for a month prior, etc. I would suggest an average performance from a number of select events. But that too has drawbacks, not everyone can make every event, etc. I'd say you should at the very least propose some options and vote on it.




-David Hunt


David, that is the best news YET!!!! Golden George baby!!!

["Tiger"]

well if its not being used to pick the rep then I say we (all alabama clubs) find some way to figure out an event or events to select the rep. Anyone with connections to other clubs, jump on this and find a forum where we can meet and discuss

[Cotton Pickin' Bill]

If I understand it right, I believe that we are talking a berth that the state coordinator has to award anyway he/she sees fit. If I am wrong about this, please someone correct me. If this is so, it is not our place as clubs to decide how it is awarded. Again, I might not understand exactly what is involved.

["Tiger"]

I'm not sure on it either, but from the sounds of things all that has to be done is the state coordinator makes a decision, but that doesn't mean whoever that is won't listen to ideas. So the easiest thing to do, like I said, is have discussion amongst the clubs and come to a consensus. The state coordinator hopefully wouldn't be someone who just did whatever they wanted without regard for the rest of us.

[Parkntwoputt]

It is the decision of the State Coordinator.

But what is trying to be communicated is that hopefully the State Coordinator will not make a selfish decision and actually selects the best candidate from the state, giving everyone an equal chance.

What is merely being suggested is that all the clubs get together with the State Coordinator of course, and come up with an objective way of selecting the representative.

A tournament (or series of) is a very objective way to make the selection. You win - You get in. You lose - You don't.

Something probably needs to happen between the State of Alabama and the PDGA and get an interim Coordinator until the elections, or just hold an early election to get the position filled ASAP.

[bobsatter]

It is 8:40 am on Friday and I just hung up with ADDIE. Well after some great discussion she has agreed to award the spot back to the GG!!!!!!!! So, for those who said I was Beachin take that!!!!! I want all of you to know why and what we discussed.

1. I said I thought it would be unfair to make an a tiere event the choice due in part to everyone having to be a member! This allows everyone a chance and if they wanna join great!

2. KRIS" boy this is hard to say" did a great job of setting up a fair test of golf with the layout. See Kris i do like you:o]~

3. the td of the blast said he was unaware of them being the host so, I threw the GG back in the mix!!!

4. I said I would rejoin the PDGA and help host the event. ADDIE wanted my CC number right then and there. Love ya ADDIE!!!!

We may have to work on a non conflicting date as there is a lot of action in April.

Hope that answers some questions and sets the HAM up to host yet another great event.

Got to run and as always have a great DAY! Bob Satter 587-1805

[Addie]

Hi everyone,

Hold up Bob, ;) I said I liked the idea of the GG but give me the chance to read the forums. I thought that was only fair.

I haven't read this entire thread but did skim it. After all I don't have tons of time here. I will read it all over the weekend, but I can say this...

This thread was brought to my attention and I apologize for not being clear but 2007 JUST started and I've been busy with my new job and the move. Please forgive me.

It was my plan, in the beginning, to have the Rocket City SuperTour as the USDGC AL rep event. The topic was discussed casually between several people at an Athens event during lunch. Nothing was set in stone because we didn't know specifics of the event.

Now that the players may not be playing the same courses and would be required to be PDGA members, I feel like the venue is open to suggestions and proposals.

I will be sending a newsletter out clarifying all of this. Also, due to my move, I have to step down as State Coordinator, but don't see that being official until sometime late February.

PLEASE email me when/if I am needed for response. I don't always see this forum.

aisbell@pdga.com

Thanks and I miss you all!
~Addie

[Justin L]

Addie, thanks again for all the hard work.

For what its worth, I'll be TD'ing the Golden George in Birmingham. I would love for it to be the state rep selection tournament. I know this event started with the explicit reason to select the state rep, I have hopes that it will stand on its own as a unique event in the state. It has some qualities that make it a good choice to decide the state rep, but other tournaments have their own qualites as well.

Let me know if there is anything, I, or DGB can do to help.

["Tiger"]

Thanks for clearing things up addie. I'm with justin, looks like the tournament is gonna be held one way or the other, so continue to discuss it with everyone to decide which tournament(s) will be used to pick our state rep and DGB will step up and help out however we can.

[Justin L]

I should stipulate that I'll be TD'ing a tournament like the Golden George. It's all up to Kris if i can use that name or not....its his tournament to hand off at his discrecion. :)

[Parkntwoputt]

I should stipulate that I'll be TD'ing a tournament like the Golden George. It's all up to Kris if i can use that name or not....its his tournament to hand off at his discrecion. :)

LOL! :D

Justin,

I do not own a copyright to the name "The Golden George". Of course you can use the name. It does not and would never bother me.

If this were to happen, which is sounds like it would, it may be the big Birmingham event that would cause me to come down and play! I have been waiting for a two-day event, preferring a large payout, but I will take what ever I can get. (Anyone willing to offer a place to stay?)

I am here to consult on design and my thoughts on improvement over last years design.

I sense a bit of pressure to hold the event in April, given the situation of having a "newly" formed official club, and the limited amount of time until April, I would like to clear something up.

There was only one reason I held the event in April. And a selfish one at that which Addie can back up. I was graduating in May, and did not know if I was going to be around during the summer. My original thoughts and wishes were to hold the event the last weekend of July. This would be the last minute for nominating State Reps, as those have to be named bu August 1st. Perhaps a deadline of Sept 1st would be easier on everyone, but that is a USDGC rule. If I knew I would have been around in July, that is when the event would have happened. But consideration for the Majors at the end of July need to be taken into consideration.

I would suggest that this be a club deal...only because of the amount of fund raising needed to sponsor a player to USDGC, which will probably be close to $250 this year. It was a tough deal last year with a short time frame, and a low entry fee (my main suggesting for a carryover from last year), to raise enough money for the tournament to be financially attractive.

If wanted, I will give up my services in private, to the main person running the event. Including some of the "tricks" I used to fund the event and make it as lucrative as possible to all involved.

I look forward to seeing this event continue, as I am sure all past competitors are looking forward to revenge.

Let me know if I can be of any help.


Bob, thank you for taking the initiative and getting the answers needed to resolve the situation. I am glad to see you are becoming an active member in the club. Only great things can happen with the cooperation of everyone wishing to benefit the greater good of Disc Golf in Birmingham.

[Justin L]

Haha...thanks Kris, I just wanted to make that official. And you know, me couch is always su couch.

I actually talked with Bob this morning about the time issue. I'm up for pushing this thing back as far as possible as well. I want to do it right. We just gotta figure out when the SNDC's are going to be and plan around that.

I deffinetly want to go back and look at the stats from last years event and digest which holes don't make statistical sense.

Kris brings up a good point about funding the AL state rep, maybe a requirement of the tournament that hosts the event should be responsible for paying the players entry fee?

Hey...at least this means i get to re-use my crappy artwork!
http://www.discgolfbirmingham.com/files/TGG_2007/george.png

[Parkntwoputt]

Hey, I liked the "curious george" jump putt.

While "funding" the state rep may not be an "in-stone" requirement, it did give the players a lot more to fight for. And it gives us the weight in the spousal arguments about spending that much on a tournament. I know my wife hates the fact that I am playing Open now, my entry fees have doubled. But at least now I can take home cash instead of discs.

[Thomas M]

I like the logo too Justin. Damn monkey's putting looks better than mine!

Thomas

[i2rt]

http://www.discgolfbirmingham.com/files/TGG_2007/george.png


I like the logo except...
George needs to be much farther away from the basket.
There needs to be an OB line all around the basket.
:D :D :D :D :D

[Parkntwoputt]

Nah, he jumped from outside the 10m circle.

But I do agree with the OB...LOL

[drdisc]

A later date makes sense as most of the big boys will have qualified by then.
It will open the position to more players.
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[mpetre]

Sounds like the right idea Tom. Perhaps we could have five or six alabama reps this year?

[BigBear]

Have y'all decided on a Golden George tournament date yet? I am from Tennessee and played the course last fall. I want to go ahead and get the dates on my calendar. Thank you.

b

["Tiger"]

I think we're having a meeting pretty soon discuss dates for our remaining tournaments this spring/summer including the Golden George. As soon as we get things decided we'll post it here. I'm thinking we were leaning towards a weekend in april, but don't rely on that.

[Tim Keith]

Not April, there are to many tournys that month.

TK

[Justin L]

The _earliest_ the event will be is July. I would like to hold it later honestly, but that is dependent on if the tournament is the Alabama USDGC rep selector.

[mpetre]

I just hope that we can be there whatever weekend it is. I'm pretty sure I'll be winning in Pro all of the time by mid-summer. Anyone know where I can buy some steroids now that this place in Houston got busted?

[BigBear]

Good deal, I'm looking forward to playing the Golden George. I enjoyed George Ward Park the time I played it last Fall. Is the tournament the standard 18 hole format or do y'all mix things in order to allow more entries?

[MAJ DG]

If by standard, you mean, the fairways tightly defined with ropes and mucho OB and all pin placements in their longest positions. :D I was unable to participate in last year's GG, but I heard about scores in the high teens on single holes.

[BigBear]

I have not heard any new news. Is there any?

[Justin L]

Unfortunately, due to scheduling, it looks like the GG won't take place until late 2007 / early 2008. We all really enjoy this event, and expect it to become an annual DGB event. With the club forming, the SNDC's, and other events taking precedence we're just to busy to get it in this summer!

[BigBear]

I understand and look forward to the day it is scheduled. Thanks for the update.

[Glen Iris Southpaw]

How about Oct. Justin? I know thats next year PDGA wise, but GW is beautiful in the fall, and usually some of the years best weather, the wind should make up for the lack of leaves.