somone changed my course of direction

[jdisc]

http://photos-662.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v54/134/33/507344414/n507344414_9662_3092.jpg
i guess its still a "y" tree.

["Tiger"]

yeah, we played a round a couple of days ago and saw this. Whats goin on with the city? Why are they cutting down random trees?

[Jebb]

because they're dead?

(or there's a parks and rec worker who plays disc golf looking for easier routes) :D

[Justin L]

that. sucks.

I guess we'll be using the back right position a lot more so at least theres some challenge.

[Putts With A Fist]

I can't see the picture for some reason. Which tree did we lose?

[Justin L]

hole 10, the Y tree that protected the right side. Shaved down to a nub just above the Y.

Maybe they just cut off the diseased part and it will start to grow back?

[Putts With A Fist]

Oh that one. That was me, not the parks service. Mean hyzer finally got it... I don't think that one is going to come back if they cut it all the way down to the Y.

[Thomas M]

i think Tom has a contact, can you lean on them Tom? i saw this yesterday and it had ruined the "normal" pin position. Add the trees removed from "A" and this is getting bad. Tom, do you know who controls this?

Thomas

[i2rt]

i think Tom has a contact, can you lean on them Tom? i saw this yesterday and it had ruined the "normal" pin position. Add the trees removed from "A" and this is getting bad. Tom, do you know who controls this?

Thomas

Think about what you are complaining about...The parks dept is actually doing their job for a change.
Every tree they have taken out was either diseased of completly dead and was dropping large limbs.
Old rotten trees present a huge risk factor from falling limbs/trees for the people using the parks. I doubt the parks dept is willing to allow know hazards to exist in the park just to give us a tougher disc golf shot.
Although it sucks to loose that pin placement, there is nothing wrong with a little change in the course layout if it means maintaining the health of the park land. I am sure we can find a new pin placement that makes good use of the original tee pad placement.
NEVER NEVER complain about park upkeep...You just may get what you ask for.

[mpetre]

Good point Bill.

[Jebb]

chop em all down!!!

...but in all seriousness, I find this one hard to complain about in any sense. Every single person here complaining will still bogey the hole from time to time. As the whole course goes, you have to concede that this means almost nothing.

Now the question is, do they lop it all the way to the ground or will the trunk remain? If they leave the trunk, I suggested we make a giant DGB logo billboard and mount it directly at the top :D

[mpetre]

And make it out of Plexiglass so you can't really tell just how far you have to shoot around it...

["Tiger"]

the concern with those trees was that they didn't appear to be dead and that the parks and rec was just choppin down trees willy nilly. I don't think anyone has a problem with them helping maintain a safe and beautiful park (which I think they've done an outstanding job of). That tree just looked pretty healthy to me, I played it on monday and it was fine, came out tuesday and it was chopped down and what they left behind definately looked good, but then again, I'm no tree expert :cool:

[Tim Keith]

that really destroyed that hole :(
Joe and myself had talked about moving it back into the little patch of woods
like on hole 11, that would make it a little more challenging, what does everyone else think about that.

TK

[mpetre]

Personally, my throw would like it right at the bottom of the valley....

[mpetre]

OK, seriously my vote would be that if the trunk is left in place the short pin placement would still be the same shot it used to be and this placement would be a nice boost to start the back nine for we that are still duffers. Then just keep 11 in the ultra-long position for the pros...

BTW, how's the shooting Tiger? You 100% on the health end of things?

[Justin L]

And make it out of Plexiglass so you can't really tell just how far you have to shoot around it...

Bahaha...stealth hazards!

[MAJ DG]

i think Tom has a contact, can you lean on them Tom? i saw this yesterday and it had ruined the "normal" pin position. Add the trees removed from "A" and this is getting bad. Tom, do you know who controls this?

Thomas

Yeah, right. B'ham Parks Dept doesn't give a sh!t about DG. It does f up a good starter hole on the back nine, regardless of pin placement. That tree came into play on all placements. The picture makes it look like the width of the fairway was at least doubled. TK's suggestion sounds like a possible fix. The problem with changes though is that they can affect the flow of play. Maybe wioth a placement back in the shule, we can cut an exit out the back right of the "green" over towards eleven's teepad, though. It just sux, but that's life.

[Thomas M]

I am generally across the board against cutting down, or removing obsticles, dead or healthy from the course. Dead trees add rugged appeal.

Thomas

["Tiger"]

my only problem with your idea TK is that by putting the whole in the shule like 11 you're essentially putting two identical holes back to back. I don't think it'l affect the flow, but it will be a kind of deja vu hole.

["Tiger"]

BTW, how's the shooting Tiger? You 100% on the health end of things?

Well as you saw today my health is pretty close to 100% if it isn't already. I'd actually played t-ville just before I came out to GW, so my endurance is back up (at least for disc golf) and my game level is getting closer to 100% as well, so all and all I'm happy :D

[Jebb]

I am generally across the board against cutting down, or removing obsticles, dead or healthy from the course. Dead trees add rugged appeal.

Thomas
yet human-sized falling limbs can kill. two sides, two sides... ;)

[dnr24]

I say you mount the pin on the tree itself and tempt people to go for an ace. Risk and reward...;)

[Rondpitt]

Yep Justin. That suxs.
Yep Bill. At least the Parks Dept did something!
Yep Richard. They don't give a rip about DG.
Yep Tim. Stretching it is a decent fix.
Yep Jeremy. Could be deja golf.

A more permanant fix might be a re-think.

If you imagined a blank slate - no tee pad or target --- what would you do with the space between 9 and 11 ???

Enjoy the Classic. Can't make it.

Ron Pittman

[Ben Morgan]

My recomendation would be to wait a little while before changing the hole. If we all take a breath, cool off and let the dust settle, the correct solution will present itself. A rush to react is rarely a good idea.

Also, cutting into the copse behind long pin and then complaining about the park service cutting trees will send a mixed message. Furthermore, it's one of the last brushy areas remaining on the course, so I urge the axers to consider before you cut.

Above all, hasten slowly.

[Thomas M]

yet human-sized falling limbs can kill. two sides, two sides... ;)

Hey that could be ok also, clear out a few slow players

ha ha


enough talk, when am I going to get to play again already!

[mpetre]

Thomas, You are playing in the CC tomorrow right?

[Thomas M]

I plan on being there. i may have my 3 and 6 year olds in tow for the first round, in which case I will ask to play with some novices or ladies...for my girls to have the slower pace.

[mpetre]

I wanna play against them :)

[MAJ DG]

Yep Justin. That suxs.
Yep Bill. At least the Parks Dept did something!
Yep Richard. They don't give a rip about DG.
Yep Tim. Stretching it is a decent fix.
Yep Jeremy. Could be deja golf.

A more permanant fix might be a re-think.

If you imagined a blank slate - no tee pad or target --- what would you do with the space between 9 and 11 ???

Enjoy the Classic. Can't make it.

Ron Pittman

Ron,

Excellent point. You made me re-think the whole - or is that the hole - situation (no smartass comments needed). For example, hows about we keep the existing tee pad as an Am tee and the pros could start teeing off from the corner of the parking lot towards the practice basket? Keep the existing three pin placements. No new cuttings required and an entirely different hole like no other at the Gee Dub.

["Tiger"]

not a bad idea, the blue pad is still over there (just hard to find)

[brianlmoon]

Or, what if we planted a new tree? It will take a while to grow, but it will grow.

If changes are in order, we could move the tee pad to the right, thus bringing more protection to all placements.

[drdisc]

If you look around you will see three other piles of downed trees. Look at the base of the tree on ten and you will see the decayed holes in the stump. They are just cutting trees before they fall. No one cares unless it affects a fairway.Has nothing to do with the fairways. Too bad they didn't leave the stump with the "Y". That's what happens when no one is there to talk to them during the day.
Sorry, I was out of town all week.
I like Richards idea of moving it back a little. I considered the move a few years ago. The only problem woud be the bad shots that go over the fence into that backyard. I'll consider the options.
In the meant time, I hope everyone can deuce the hole. If you don't deuce it 70 percent of the time, there is real no need to complain.
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[Greg T]

Played this hole today for the first time since the famous cut-down. Much, much easier. A little deeper in the woods could be fun.