The Golden George - April 22nd and 23rd

[Parkntwoputt]

Information available on old DGB site until transfer is complete to new site.

[Parkntwoputt]

April 22-23
3 Rounds of 18 Holes
Gold Course Temporary Setup
PDGA C Tier
Approximate length - 7100ft
Par - 57
Pro Open Entry fee - $37
Amateur Open $20, this will be a two round trophy only division.
(PDGA member receive a $5 discount.)

Players packs for all entrants!

The top three players in the amateur division will receive nice disc golf trophies for their respective finish.

The highlight of this event will be that this is the Alabama USDGC State Representative Selection Tournament.

Alabama residents will have to play Pro Open to qualify for the State Rep spot.
The winner of this event will be awarded the seat to represent the State of Alabama at the 2006 USDGC, and earn a guarrenteed free entry. (Details and provisions to be spelled out at the tournament).

[Parkntwoputt]

Here are some preliminary sketches to make you want to play.

There will be some tweaking in the next few months, but for the most part this will be the set up.

Total Length 7177ft (four new/temporary holes need to be officially measured) but this should be close.

Shortest hole - #10 @ 274ft
Longest hole - #5 @ 700ft

Average hole length 399ft

Par 60.

http://www.msnusers.com/GoldenGeorgeDesigns

I do not know if you need an MSN/Hotmail email account to view this, but our webmaster Justin Littrel is turning these sketches into a masterpiece of a caddie guide. Once finished it will be published for download here on the website.

[Parkntwoputt]

You can make out the check for $37 (PDGA members pay only $32) to

Kris Allen
(Please put "Golden George Tournament" in reference area of check)

Mail to:
5035 Summer Place Pkwy
Hoover, AL 35244

[Parkntwoputt]

PDGA Competition Director John Champman has issued a clarification statement about Am's playing in the Pro divisions.

Here is his post on the PDGA forums.
Note to all amateurs:

Amateurs still may NOT accept prizes, other than trophies, in lieu of cash if they place in professional divisions, else they will forfeit their amateur status.

This line was previously contained in the PDGA Rules Book, and was inadvertantly omitted from the Tour Standards this year. This will shortly be corrected in the online documents and all the documents sent to future tournament directors.

John Chapman
PDGA Competition Director


What does this mean for the Golden George and the Amateurs playing in the Open division.

The Golden George will not offer a reduced entry trophy only option in the Pro division.

Any Am's who play the pro division at the Golden George must deny all cash/prizes in order to retain PDGA Amateur Status. I must be notified before the tabulation of final results if an amateur player is going to refuse cash if placing in open.

Reminder, this does not affect the amateurs eligibility for the USDGC State Rep award. The award is considered an ancilliary prize, and does not affect amateur eligibility.

[Parkntwoputt]

phew....

Copy/Paste is a wonderful thing.:)

[Parkntwoputt]

Depending on how flexible Justin is with his proposed doubles at Civitan Park, we will have a work day at George Ward on Saturday the 15th or Sunday the 16th.

We will install temporary mando signs on holes
4
6
9
10
11
18

There are some holes that need to have areas raked to clear out pine straw and sweetgum balls.

We could possibly get it done in the morning and have time to make it to doubles at Civitan.

[Parkntwoputt]

Saturday
Registration/Check-in Begin 7:30am
Registration Closes 9am
Mandatory Players Meeting 9am
First round tee off 9:30am
1 hr lunch
2nd round approximate tee off 1:30pm

Sunday
Cards available at 9:30am
Tee off at 10am

Awards ceremony following round, approximately 2pm

[Parkntwoputt]

The USDGC Entry fee has been officially covered by sponsorship!

That means that none of the entry fees will go to the payout. We still have a few more sponsors who said they will donate to the tournament, but we already have $200 added cash to the pro purse!

Considering there is only 4 preregistered players, they are getting one heck of a payout!

[Hilltopper]

So who are the preregistered players? Kris, Justin, Josh, and Bill Bullington? Bring it on USDC. Alabama's best on display. :D

[Parkntwoputt]

We have 6 players pre-registered for this event right now.

4 playing Open
2 playing Amateur


I decided on a policy of not posting who was entered as I did not want anyone to be discouraged about who is there. Accuracy is the key on this course, you can easily do well on this course with only a 300ft drive.

I have had some players call me from out of state. Although they cannot win the State Rep spot, the do add competition to the field.

[Justin L]

So who are the preregistered players? Kris, Justin, Josh, and Bill Bullington? Bring it on USDC. Alabama's best on display. :D

What are you trying to say? That i'm not one of Alabama's elite?!?!? HOW DARE YOU?

<end sarcasm>

Hey man, the way i look at it is that if one of us chumps ends up winning the spot it will just be more incentive for the pros to come over and show us how its done next year...haha.

[Parkntwoputt]

Exactly, I already have enough entries to justify the divisions. So guess what. As of right now, one of the 4 preregistered has a 25% chance of going to USDGC.

Psst....They are all regular amateur players playing up.

I am really pulling for an amateur player to win the spot. But no one will know for sure who gets it until August first. 10 weeks of bumps and nervous anticipation.:D

[Parkntwoputt]

Please remember that only verified Alabama residents can win the USDGC State Representative spot.

For all non-Alabama Residents, this is a standard C-Tier event.

[Parkntwoputt]

Players meeting and check in will be near the practice basket at the upper parking lot where the course starts. We will also hold the amateur awards there.


We have reserved the pavilion for Sunday (it was already reserved for Saturday, so please be respectful of the other users of the park). We will post cards Sunday morning at the pavilion, and the pro awards ceremony will be held there as well.

Thanks to Art Meripol for financing the pavilion for us.

[Parkntwoputt]

All amateurs will receive a DX Wraith
(personally one of the longest discs I have ever thrown, even a lackluster drive got me past the first oak on hole #5)

All pros will receive a Star Tee Rex. Of course they do have a choice of taking the DX Wraith if they want, but they cannot have both.

PS. For any pro who does not want a players pack the money will go back into the payout. This way the pros have a choice, bigger payout or a players pack. I thought this would make all people in Pro happy, the guys stepping up will at least get something, then the better players who should cash can refuse the players pack and take home the extra $$$. :rolleyes:

["Tiger"]

Kris, go ahead and put my name down. You'll be getting my check this weekend probably.

[Parkntwoputt]

Hey Bagger Woods, what division are you playing in?

["Tiger"]

if you have to ask that question you obviously don't know me. Haven't you seen the nickname is just "Tiger"? 8-) Pro

[Jtrain]

Just to be clear the Ams are only having a one day C tier tourny playing two rounds on Sat. Is this correct?
If this is correct when will the awards be for Ams Sat. or Sun.
How long does it take to drive from Nashville?

["Tiger"]

I believe nashville is about a 3 hour drive. Maybe less, its not bad at all and yes ams will only play on saturday with their own awards ceremony that same day.

[Justin L]

That's correct...single day, two rounds.

Am Awards (this is trophy only, bascially fundraising) will be after the second round concludes. You will get a DX Wraith in your players pack though.

From Nashville, conservativly four hours.

Is this JT from Nasville? Is Curtis thinking about coming down too?

[Jtrain]

Thanks for the info. I'm there i was looking for a one day tourny that weekend.
C-yall in a few weeks.
No my name is Jason Couser.

[Justin L]

Thanks for the info. I'm there i was looking for a one day tourny that weekend.
C-yall in a few weeks.
No my name is Jason Couser.

Ahh..right on, I met some guys from Vandy named JT and Curtis that were at the Florence Spring Fling and at Bowling Green Ams.

We're going to post a caddie guide in the next couple days, keep an eye out for it!

[Jtrain]

Can you guys give me some basic directions from Nashville.
Thanks for your help. I will probably leave Nashville around 5am that should give me plenty of time to get there before 9 want it.

[Parkntwoputt]

Nashville is ~3 hour drive, 180 miles. So you should make it in time to check in. Remember registration is closed at 9am. If you think you might be late, please send your registration and entry fee early.

Take I-65 South the entire way.

The directions are very accurate on the PDGA course directory.
http://www.pdga.com/course/courses_by_city.php?id=1

After you get off of I-65 on GreenSprings Ave, then turn left onto Green Springs Hwy, you should see the softball fields on the right. Once you pass under the bridge, take an immediate right at the stop light. Then the first chance you get to take a right, turn and go through some old apartments, they line the enterance of the park. You will see a tennis center pro shop, and follow the road to the left and go straight back. You will see a parking lot that will hold about 50 cars. There you will find us and holes #1 and #10.

[Justin L]

Yeah, if you're anywhere but north of Nashville that should give you time. Google maps has the trip at 3:30, and those usually drive the speed limit.

Coming south on 65 you will pass throug the 65/20/59 junction, continue traveling straight towards Montgomery/Mobile.

About 2 miles from the junction you will see an exit for Greensprings Ave (exit 258). Exit there and take a left. Then take another left on Greensprings HWY (2nd light) . Go about 1/2 mile and you'll pass under a bridge, take the next right on 16th ave. Then take another right at the stone gates, up between some older apartments. This is the park entrance. Bear left of the Tennis Center and continue to the back parking lot, you should see tournament central there!

[Justin L]

damn, he types faster...

[Parkntwoputt]

damn, he types faster...

I have been told I have magic fingers:D

["Tiger"]

I have been told I have magic fingers:D

Thats disturbing on so many levels :-P

[Jtrain]

I will go ahead and send my check off this week just to be safe.
It is 15 for pdga member correct?

[Parkntwoputt]

Yep, $15 for current PDGA members in the Amateur Divsion.

Please be sure to include your PDGA # too.

See you in 11 days!

And yes, the awards for the Amateur division will be held immediately following the 2nd round once I get the scores finalized.

[Justin L]

Thats disturbing on so many levels :-P

I was thinking if would putt as fast as he types we could probably get finished with our rounds like 30 minutes faster....

[Parkntwoputt]

I was thinking if would putt as fast as he types we could probably get finished with our rounds like 30 minutes faster....

Yeah but it would still take you 4 throws to get to the basket.:D

[Parkntwoputt]

Yesterday I bought Wal-Mart out of 10 inch tent spikes.

You can get a 4-pack for 2.97

I got 48 spikes. Since we are using trees on the majority of holes for stringing up OB lines, we probably don't need many more.

If anyone would like, we could use 20 more spikes.

They are the actual spikes, not the ones that are squarish.

(is squarish even a word?)

[Justin L]

You're talking like the metal bent ones right?

Also, I'll have the caddie guide (for mailing/posting) done TONIGHT. I'm going to GW after i get off work to get the couple of yardages that i still need.

I've got WW's address, I'm going to send him a couple, do you have any others?

[Jtrain]

Who is running this tourny? The reason i ask is i just talked to a buddy of mine and he is wanting to come down with me and i was wondering if i could send one check to cover both of us. He is not a PDGA member so i will make the check for 35.00 (20 for non PDGA and 15 for for me) will this be cool to do it like that?
Thanks

[Parkntwoputt]

I am the tournament director.

You can make the checks payable to me, and send your entries to

Kris Allen
5035 Summer Place Pkwy
Hoover, AL 35244

[Parkntwoputt]

You're talking like the metal bent ones right?

The ones I bought are not bent. They are straight rods.

[Jtrain]

I am paying for him so can i just make one check to you for $35.00
$15.00 PDGA member
$20.00 for non PDGA member
Thanks

[Justin L]

The ones I bought are not bent. They are straight rods.

Which wal-mart did you buy out? I'll try another one later this week....

[Parkntwoputt]

I went to the Wal-Mart on Hwy 31 in Pelham near the Mazad Dealership.

[Parkntwoputt]

I am paying for him so can i just make one check to you for $35.00
$15.00 PDGA member
$20.00 for non PDGA member
Thanks


Not a problem. $35 is $35.

Please no loose change. :eek:

[Jtrain]

Cool
Check will be in the mail today.

["Tiger"]

I was thinking if would putt as fast as he types we could probably get finished with our rounds like 30 minutes faster....


Yeah, but if he putts faster then I won't be able to mock him behind his back 8-)

[Parkntwoputt]

Yeah, but if he putts faster then I won't be able to mock him behind his back 8-)

Yeah so what. I putt slow. I make sure I take as much time as I can to miss all those putts.:(

Plus, you mock me to my face so whats the difference. That is usually when you smack your drive into a tree anyway, so mock away bagger.

Do you have Friday off for a round out a T-ville?

["Tiger"]

I do have practice unfortunately. Last practice of the season...a fitness test :-P. But I should be done around 4:30 and can head out there after that since it stays light til about 7:00 now. I can give you a call when I'm done if you don't mind waiting that long

[Parkntwoputt]

No prob, just give me a call. I probably will sleep in and head out after I eat lunch anyway.

[Justin L]

Hrmm....I might try to pick you guys up after the first couple holes. If i get off at 5 and head straight out there i should be there by 5:30. Lily will be pissed, but she'll get over it....haha.

[Parkntwoputt]

Sure man.

My boss decided that we would be closed on Friday since most of our customers are government ran facilities they would be closed as well.

No need to sit in an office waiting for a phone that won't ring.

[Parkntwoputt]

Unless we can come up with another $80 for bales we will resort to another form of marking the OB island around the pin on hole #2.

The reason for the hay bale idea was to truly reflect hole #17 at Winthrop Gold, and it would not allow skip shots to enter the green.

Well, without hay bales and only using flags/paint, skip shots can go out of the circle.

Either way, the disc will have to come to rest inside the in bounds zone. Any bodys shot ending OB will have to take their next shot, plus one shot penalty, at the drop zone regardless of where they landed OB.

If anybody wishes to donate $80 and a pickup truck, I can get the Pine Straw Bales with only 2 days notice.

[Justin L]

Have you called the parks dept and see if they had any they might be willing let us use/have?

[Jtrain]

Hey guys
Count on two from Tn. to be there, mailman just picked up the check.
We are both Am2 forgot to put it on the info with the check.
See yall on the 22nd.
Thanks for all yalls help this morning.
Jason

[Justin L]

Right on man, glad to see TN representing!

[Parkntwoputt]

Thanks Jason,

Welcome to your first Advanced Tournament:D

Actually, most of the advanced players will be stepping up into the Open division, so it will be about the same as MA2. But you will get the points scale as MA1, so you actually will benefit.

[Jtrain]

Cool
Tell those guys to take it easy on me:D . I've only been playing for two years and i am still learning. So how is the course for a lefty.

[Parkntwoputt]

I have been playing for two years as well.

The course is pretty lefty/righty neutral. There are holes that balance eachother out. Some are lefty dominante, some are righty dominate.

It does not matter which hand you throw with, the challenge will be keeping it in bounds.

[Tim Keith]

Hey kris, if you are trying to duplicate hole 17 at the USDGC it would be better represented useing hole 3 a GW because it is a slight down hill shot just like hole 3 at about the same downhill slope and distance.

TK

[Jtrain]

Sounds good to me. Already getting fired up for this one. I just really like going to out of town tournaments to see all the different designs.

[Parkntwoputt]

I see what you are saying TK, but with exception to getting past the first trees on #17 at Winthrop, the hole is wide open.

#2 is pretty much wide open. And basically I felt that we should give at least one duece opportunity on the course.

We did think that you had an unfair disadvantage with this hole being an island like it is, then we remembered hole #15. So your disadvantage on #2 is far outweighed by your advantage on #15. At least I made the fairway 80ft wide. It is actually farther on the ground then in your mind. 80ft is almost to the manhole.

#15 is looking really sweet with those trees growing in like they are.

[Parkntwoputt]

I will go over this at the Players meeting, and it may be more indepth, this was an on the road quick responce. But it does give a summary of the holes.

On all holes except where I will note, you take your lie where the disc last crosses the OB line. This is the standard OB rule.

There will be some holes where there are specific rules pertaining to what to do with an OB tee shot or missed Mando

#4 Missed Mando - Re Tee

#6 Missed Mando - Drop Zone

#7 OB on Tee shot (both skips, rolls or air shots, disc must stay Inbounds) - drop zone.

#8 OB on tee shot - Disc must come to rest in bounds - drop zone

#9 Missed first gate - retee
Missed second gate - drop zone

#10 Missed mando and/or landing in OB lake - drop zone. If OB beyond right of the basket, take lie where disc crossed the OB line

#11 Missed mando retee; if OB take lie from where disc last crossed line

#15 Missed Mando retee;
Disc must at least touch the in bounds area. If the disc touches inbounds and comes to rest OB, then lie is taken at point where the disc crossed the line. If the disc never touched the playing surface inbounds and the disc comes to rest OB, player must retee.

#18 Missed Mando - Retee


These are the only hole specific rules that we have for this tournament. Most of them are to prevent the Tin Cup Syndrome, others are to add intensity to the situation. All are within the PDGA rules of play.

Due to PDGA Sanctioning we will abide by all PDGA rules of play. http://www.pdga.com/rules/index.php

If you have any more questions please let me know. This is also why there is a mandatory player meeting at 9am. I will go over the caddy guide and some of the hole specific rules that will be inforce.

[Justin L]

You forgot #2 - If disc does not land inbounds (60 foot diameter ring around basket, hole measures ~280ft) then player moves to drop zone (50ft from pin) and approaches. Repeat if disc doesn't come to rest inbounds.

[Parkntwoputt]

Well it looks like everyone will have to attend the players meeting to find out about all the specifics with the course.

[Parkntwoputt]

We will be starting at 8am morning on Friday the 21st to get the ropes, flags, drop zones and tee signs up for the tournament.

We will start in the morning and work until it is finished.

Any and all bodies will make this go faster. We will do this on a hole by hole basis, working around the mowing crews. Rain or shine this HAS to be done on that Friday.

[M Bose]

Hey guy's the kids and I were planning on coming down for TGG. It looks like no intermediate division. Is that correct? Blair can play advanced and so could I,but Brady is small fry and wants to play int. We would all prefer Int.
due to lack of experience on the course. Could that division be offered?

[Justin L]

Hey Michael! Glad you guys are considering coming down. I'll let Kris take the question on the divisions, but to my understanding since its a trophy only AM division it doesn't really matter. Basically they're calling it advanced so that players rated higher than 915 can play Saturday only.

Basically this is going to be a tournament to test yourself against a USDGC style course. I can tell you though, that there will be A LOT of intermediate players coming down to play Saturday only. So I wouldn't get stuck up on the name itself, just don't let the little guy get discouraged based on how he places...have him look at his rating, and how close he shot to the big guys in open. I know some of them will struggle with this layout too!

Check back later today, there should be a caddie guide available for you guys to look at!

[Parkntwoputt]

We are using only two divisions for this event.

MPO and MA1

MPO is the professional Open division. All players can enter this division without restriction. There is no womens or masters division offered either. This simplifies the selection process for our USDGC State Rep. Everyone competed against eachother in the same division.

MA1, commonly known as advanced, is the Amateur Open division. Any player who has not accepted cash/prizes in a professional division for their performace can play in this division.


To be honest, most of the Advanced level players in the state are moving up to Open for this specific tournament for their chance to win the USDGC state rep spot. So the MA1 field at the Golden George will not be as strong as normal tournaments. All players entered in the MA1 division so far are intermediate players.

Like Justin said, this is a trophy only amateur division. The top three placers in the division will recieve trophies. This is more of a test of your skills against the top players. We can put your son on a card with specified players the first round if you prefer, but after that the next round is sorted by scores. Just come on out and have fun, and try to keep it inbounds. :cool:

[Justin L]

If anyone would like, we could use 20 more spikes.

I'm now the proud owner (or should i say DGB is) of 40 aluminum tent spikes. So that makes 84. We should be good to go!

[Parkntwoputt]

Awesome,

Thanks Justin.

I think we may have single handedly increased the market price of camping gear in Birmingham.

Tomorrow in the Birmingham News Outdoors Sections

"More people then ever take to the woods, as camping gear flies off the shelves at local merchants. Let's hear from Walmart's Regional Manager." "Well, I don't know whats going on, all our forecasting from recent trends indicated a slump in sales of recreational gear due to rising energy costs. We are going to take advantage of the situation and will receive 2 truck loads of camping gear per store within the next week. We are also raising the local prices of tent stakes from $2.97 for a 4-pack to $4.97. Customers will still see a value as we expect this trend to continue throughout Labor Day."

HA! That would be hilarious.

[woodrow]

So, if you're not going to post who has pre-registered, how would I know if I want to come or not? I haven't been able to find anything about how many have registered, if there's even any spots left or what competition will be there to make it worth my while to attend!!!

I hope you will remedy this situation so I can make a decision.

[Hilltopper]

Important question. What if your first shot hits a tree and falls short of a retee mando. Then your second shot misses the mando. Do you retee? Not that this has ever happened to me before or anything. :(

Josh

[Justin L]

The only places where this could _possibly_ happen are 4 and 18, and it's very unlikely at 4. We'll have to see what kris says but i would _assume_ that if you miss the mando you "re-throw" on these holes....regardless if your throw is from the tee or from the fairway. Just my opinion.

Josh, you playing 1 day or 2? Just want to know if you can expect you on my card...haha :)

[Parkntwoputt]

So, if you're not going to post who has pre-registered, how would I know if I want to come or not? I haven't been able to find anything about how many have registered, if there's even any spots left or what competition will be there to make it worth my while to attend!!!

I hope you will remedy this situation so I can make a decision.

8 People Pre-registered

64 open positions left.

I have heard that a lot of people want to attend, many people have told me they are coming. I am not holding spots, if you are the 73rd person to hand me money Saturday morning I am sorry. If we put 5-somes out there, we will have rounds take over 4 hours each to play.

I strongly encourage people to preregister.

No Checks accepted after 4pm on Friday April 21st. Cash only, due to banking hours.

[Jtrain]

Any word on the caddie guide?
No hurry just checking.
Thanks

[Justin L]

Any word on the caddie guide?
No hurry just checking.
Thanks

Kris should be checking it right now. I got finished later in the day yesterday than i wanted to. He'll post the link as soon as he makes sure i've got everything close enough for a preview guide.. :)

[Parkntwoputt]

Important question. What if your first shot hits a tree and falls short of a retee mando. Then your second shot misses the mando. Do you retee? Not that this has ever happened to me before or anything. :(

Josh

Good question Josh.

This could possibly happen on #4;
- while it is extremely improbable, I would say that if any shot following the tee shot that misses this mando will rethrow from a drop zone near one of the trees. I will look at this this weekend and decide which tree. But if you miss this mando on the second shot you, are truly having a bad day.

#6
-Any shot that misses the mando must be brought back to the drop zone.

#9
- You have to make it through the first double mando gate to even get inbounds, on this hole it becomes a nonissue besides the fact that you cannot retrieve your disc to re-tee. (read the PDGA rules, you are not allowed to go and get a disc that has missed a mando, you must use another disc). On this hole, any shot that misses the second double mando must drop from the mando line (line will be marked.

#10
- Any shot that misses the mando must be rethrown from the drop zone

#11
- The mando is 10ft off the tee and is the first obstacle, standard mando rule on this hole is retee. Since, the mando is so close to the tee box, the tee box will be used as the drop zone for all mando's missed.
#15
- On this hole, you will not be in bounds untill you cross the street. So, by the OB rule, you would have to retee anyway. Again though, if someone tries to throw around the mando, they will have to retee.

#18
- The mando is on the first tree like #11. And is only 15ft off the tee. Like #11 the tee box will be used as the drop zone for any shots missing the mando's.



Josh, you should do fine on this course. It may be long, however everyhole is about control, and if played smart, a finesse player has the best statistical chances of doing well. The really high risk/reward shots are for the big throwers. They will see the shorter, safer routes, but we are hoping that the risk of the birdie route is good enough. Shooting course par will be very good at this tournament. (And no, course par is not 54. It is 58 for both rounds on Saturday, and 60 for the round on Sunday.) So, if you are playing Am, you actually have a very good chance at winning.

But since people refuse to preregister, I cannot tell you exactly who is playing.

[Parkntwoputt]

Good Morning everyone,

Finally, a publishable draft of our Golden George Caddy Guide.

This is not a final version. We will probably still take a few liberties with design in the next week, but no major changes will happen.

http://www.discgolfbirmingham.com/index.php?page=TGG_2006
Click here and you can download a pdf file or browse online.

We will give everyone the final version once they check in. It will include a schedule, qualifying rules for the State Rep, hole descriptions, sponsor list, and a personalized score sheet for all three rounds.

Enjoy.

[Jtrain]

Kris should be checking it right now. I got finished later in the day yesterday than i wanted to. He'll post the link as soon as he makes sure i've got everything close enough for a preview guide.. :)

Cool, I appreciate all yalls hard effort on everything yall are doing to make this a great tounament.
Sounds like it is going to be alot of fun.
Thanks

[Justin L]

No problem man....we think its going to be alot of fun. Incase you didn't see it Kris posted the caddie guide right above your post.

Get it at http://www.discgolfbirmingham.com/index.php?page=TGG_2006

Any feedback is welcomed!

[Jtrain]

Caddie guide looks great everything clearly marked and very easy to understand.
GREAT JOB:D
Thanks again for all yalls hard work.
C-yall in 9 days
Jason

[Parkntwoputt]

For those of you looking for Hotels,

I went to Expedia.com and did a search by address, using

Greensprings Hwy
Birmingham, AL 35209

There were 6 hotels located within 1 mile. Our course is right off of Green Springs Hwy.

There is no official host hotel. I would suggest staying in hotels off of Lakeshore drive, they are in better neighborhoods.

Remember. Check in ends promptly at 9am.

[Parkntwoputt]

I just got back from the Birmingham P&R department and have reserved the pavilion for Sunday.

However, the pavilion has been resevered by another group for Saturday. If they are not occupying the pavilion by the time the tournament starts, I will have someone representing us talk with the people organizing their gathering.

We all want to share the park equally. We will do our part by identifying the fairways and warning them of the discs flying in the general vicinity. We will also have to very careful not to throw into their gathering. No one can be granted exclusive use of the park, however they do have exclusive use the the pavilion itself.

Through adequate communication everything should run smoothly.

[Justin L]

Well luckily we're playing the route away from the Pavillion on Saturday so hopefully it won't be a huge issue.

["Tiger"]

I was thinkin, if anyone has a digital camera they should bring it to the tournament so we could have some footage of the tournament. As this tournament will be picking the USDGC Alabama rep would could possibly send it to discgolftv.com and have them air it on their show in a week. just an idea.

[Parkntwoputt]

The only thing I am concerned with is long arm throwers hyzering out too much.

Other then that it should be a non issue.

It is almost 400ft to the pavilion from the tee box we are using.

Like I said, communication is the key. If any tournament player gets angry at the people, it could jeopardize the courses future.

["Tiger"]

it will be for people who can't turn their discs or bad rollers gone astray

[Parkntwoputt]

I was thinkin, if anyone has a digital camera they should bring it to the tournament so we could have some footage of the tournament. As this tournament will be picking the USDGC Alabama rep would could possibly send it to discgolftv.com and have them air it on their show in a week. just an idea.


This is a great idea... Sunday's round will be perfect for this. Perhaps a person playing on Saturday only can commision a digital video camera and do some footage on Sunday?

[Putts With A Fist]

I was thinkin, if anyone has a digital camera they should bring it to the tournament so we could have some footage of the tournament. As this tournament will be picking the USDGC Alabama rep would could possibly send it to discgolftv.com and have them air it on their show in a week. just an idea.

I'm in a wedding on Saturday the 22nd but I will try to bring the camera rig down to the course on Sunday for some shots.

[Justin L]

I have a DV camera and tripod. Pretty decent one, never used it much. Work provided.

I'll see if i can figure out how to charge the battery....

[woodrow]

I ain't comin'

[Parkntwoputt]

This will be an excellent course to come out and test your actual disc golf skills and abilities to land shots properly. This is drumming up some real competition. The field will be tough.

[Parkntwoputt]

I have heard some dissent about my decision on not posting the Preregistered list.

First let me say that I am not the first TD to not run a pregistered list. There are some TD's who are too lazy to do so. It is really easy to upload the preregistered players. But I choose not to and there is a very specific reason.

This tournaments main objective is to select Alabama's USDGC State Representative. This is first and foremost the only objective. I could completely close the whole tournament to out of state residents, but I felt that the since everyone likes the course, and with the unique setup that it will be a draw in itself.

So my reason for not posting preregistered players? Simple. If a mid level pro here in Alabama, would see that Dean Tannock or Matt Orum, or Joe Thacker was already signed up, they would feel that since they think they do not have a chance at beating them, they opt to stay home. But the player who as read the rules, realizes that Dean and Matt have already qualified for the USDGC, and that Thacker will likely qualify on his own.

So, this prevents people from backing out because they think the competition is too tough.

As far as payout goes, well, the more people who show up the better the pay out gets. Since a lot of sponsorship money went to the USDGC money there is a decent amount left for added cash. Lets not forget our friends the Am's too. We know what Am players do for a Pro payout.

But with the current level of added cash, plus the number of people signed up, lets just say that the person in the last cashing spot will be very happy. Oh, and I will be paying out the top 50% in the pro field per the PDGA payout tables.

There are some really good pros coming to town for this event. There are also a good number of Advanced players from Alabama stepping up for their shot at winning the USDGC State Rep spot. Because it is still possible to not cash in the pro division and still become the state rep.

[Parkntwoputt]

Just to let everyone know that the only differences between the online caddy guide and the one we will provide at check in will only envolve changes in widening some of the fairways on the guide itself.

["Tiger"]

I was having a great round today playing the george til my fiancee decided she didn't want to be out there anymore :-P. I was 1 under with 4 holes to go, thats including a three on 5. We'll see if that luck holds out for the rest of the week and into the weekend.:cool:

[Hilltopper]

Tiger,
I'm not one to give relationship advice, but let me fill you in on a couple of things. Number 1: Don't listen to anything Kris Allen says about women. Number 2: Only marry/date women who are better than you at disc golf. Just ask Chris Jaskolka, Shawn Sinclair, Chad Smith or myself. :cool:

Josh

[Hilltopper]

I went out and played the course with the caddy guide and all I have to say is let's bring on the thumbers!!!!! :D

["Tiger"]

lol. She had a valid excuse... she got a migrane and was actually tryin to hold off as long as possible. She didn't even tell me til we got to 5. And yeah, thumbers...whatever keeps in in bounds cause thats the trick.

[Parkntwoputt]

282ft Thumber fading to the left? Good luck on #2.

As far as female advise, granted my wife may not be better then me at Disc golf, but she is better then me at competitive swimming.

Josh, you are just jealous because your wife can throw farther then you. Heck, she may even beat you at the Golden George! LOL.

Jeremy, hopefully you didn't use up all of your luck, and did you play 16/17 long or short?

["Tiger"]

both long, should've dueced 16 (30ft putt) and I can't remember whether or not I dueced 17(40ft putt uphill) but I don't think so

[Parkntwoputt]

both long, should've dueced 16 (30ft putt) and I can't remember whether or not I dueced 17(40ft putt uphill) but I don't think so


I will be the first one to either call BS or call out the fact that you do not know what I asked.

16 Long is almost 700ft long. If you had a 30ft duece putt then you are a god. I am thinking you are playing the short configuration for the GG.

[Justin L]

He probably meant throwing from the long tee. That in itself is still a pretty solid pull (380' slight turnover or high spike hyzer).

[Parkntwoputt]

Yeah I knew what he meant, but since he said he was playing the GG setup, we are only teeing from the Blue pad on that one. :D Debating symantics (sp) is fun.

Really, 380ft? I was thinking 360ft, but I guess that is pretty close huh. That just makes me feel even better about my pull with the Leopard Sunday Morning. :cool:

[Justin L]

Well...I measured these in what i consider the "Fairway path" so i probably took a little wider measurement (more down the center of the fairway, then turning right at the road).

["Tiger"]

lol, sorry, yeah I didn't read that one right. It was the short placemet. I was thinking pro pad. No worries I have no intentions of trying to claim I can make a 600ft pull. I'm still strugglin to hit 400 consistantly :D

["Tiger"]

Question... its supposed to rain this weekend. I would assume we're playing through standard rain, but there are also supposed to be some scattered thunderstorms and whatnot. Whats the plan in this case? Do we play on?

[Justin L]

If lightning gets bad in the area then the TD will sound a horn that means play should stop at that time, you should mark your lie and seek cover. HINT: find a rock or something to put ontop of you mini otherwise it will blow away...then you have to have a group decision to find your lie.

When play gets restarted its just like the start of a tournament, figure out the time, wait for 2 minute horn, etc.

[Parkntwoputt]

I will double check the rules for inclimate weather. However as long as lighting is not within one mile of the course, we are fine and play will continue. I believe they state a distance rule, I will verify this though.

['nooga Jeff]

Wondering if the field still open for walk ups on Saturday morning or maybe Friday night? I'd be playing Ams Intermediate...

[Tim Keith]

is anybody going to be out at GW playing this afternoon, i want to check out the layout for this weekend.

TK

[Justin L]

TK, I can't make it today but i'll deffinetly be out there pretty much every night for the rest of the week after 5.

The caddie guide does a _pretty_ good job of showing the basic layout, but it does leave a bit left for interperation.

[Parkntwoputt]

Wondering if the field still open for walk ups on Saturday morning or maybe Friday night? I'd be playing Ams Intermediate...


I will be at the course Friday, do not know about any day before that. Thursday is a possibility, but it does not look good.

So far, the field is not filled. I am expecting around 40-45 based on who has said they were coming. But the field is capped at 72.

Friday I will post my cell phone on the bulletin board, call it and I will tell you which hole I am working on so you can sign up Iwill be at the course until 8pm unless it starts to downpour.

Registration is open from 7:30am to 9am Saturday. Registration ends promptly at 9am on my watch or when the 72nd person pays me money.

There is only one amateur division for this event. All amateurs will play MA1. But most of the advanced players are playing up in the Open division for this event.

[Parkntwoputt]

is anybody going to be out at GW playing this afternoon, i want to check out the layout for this weekend.

TK


Tim,

There are yellow dots on the ground and on the base of trees to mark the OB areas.

Sorry, I have to many other things to get done for the weekend to get ready.
Even though I am done with actual school work, I still have to show up for classes each night.

By helping lay out string and hang Mando signs you will learn the course really well on Friday.

The more we have help the less we have to stay out in the rain.

[Tim Keith]

i have to work friday, then drive to oneonta to pick up my daughter

TK

["Tiger"]

TK I'm actually on my way to the course right now. I should be out there from about 2:30 til 5:00ish maybe. You can call me at (205)913-2183 is you wanna try and find me out there.

[M Bose]

Kris,
Please put us down for the am's division:
Michael Bose = 25559
Brady Bose = 26656
Blair Bose = 25560
I'll pay cash Saturday morning, I don't think a check would get there in time.
We are camping at Rickwood Friday evening so we should be there early.

This thing is going to be insane!! I feel my highest score ever coming on.:cool: Looking forward to it, c-ya Saturday.

[Hilltopper]

Hey Kris,

There's still an am buy in for Sunday right? When I shoot 6 under on Saturday, I might decide to stay another day.

Josh

PS 280 feet?! I've out thrown a 300 foot hole by 30 feet with a thumber at Chalybeate in Kentucky. Of course, I had a tailwind and it wasn't slightly uphill like 2. Besides while thumbers roll to the right (downhill on 2), tomahawks roll to the left. Also Epic thumbers roll left. See people, there IS a use for the Epic. :p

["Tiger"]

lol the epic. That is a great disc to make people go WOW!!!!

[Parkntwoputt]

Josh,

Yes there is still the buy in option for Am's to enter the pro division on Sunday.

$25 cash on Saturday before the Am awards ceremony.

You will be bumped into the pro division, when you buy in.

[Parkntwoputt]

Tonight we got some "great" prizes for the players with the most and least OB penalties in each division.

[Parkntwoputt]

Apparently there is a lot of confusion and rumors being spread about this tournament.....

This is concerning the State Rep spot.


NO ONE will know who is the state Rep on this weekend.

The USDGC gets the $230, not the player.

On August 1st 2006, the PDGA state coordinator and myself will choose the state rep based on the tournament finish, and we will eliminate players as such.

1) All non-Alabama residents do not qualify.
2) Any player who has qualified on their own for the 2006 USDGC, will be eliminated.

Finally, the top remaining player who is an Alabama resident who has yet at the time qualified for the USDGC will become our state Rep. The PDGA coordinator and I will contact the USDGC office and put a name to the registration which we had submitted after the tournament.



Any Questions now?

["Tiger"]

so...how is the state rep picked? HAHAHAHAHAHA :D . Sorry, I'm a smartass

[Justin L]

The USDGC gets the $230, not the player.


It's important to note that $230 has already been taken care of. It is NOT coming out of the purse of the event. Sponsorships and such have already taken care of it. This is no cut rate event, payouts will be good! :)

[Parkntwoputt]

Yep,

I did my job and covered the USDGC entry with sponsorships.

Payouts will be over 100% of net Entry fees.

[Parkntwoputt]

It looks like typical Alabama Summer Weather for the event.

"If there is a cloud in the sky, and the sun is out....then it might rain."

It should make for some interesting scores.

[Tim Keith]

Joe shot a 4 or 5 down on the back 9 yesterday!
don't know what he did on the front, i had to leave. watch out for this guy!

TK

[Parkntwoputt]

Joe has been playing some incredible golf since coming back from his Achillies injury.

I would look for him to be at the top on Sunday.



If all goes well, we should have an ad hoc video crew filming the lead card on Sunday. We will edit it down to the exciting footage.

And submit it to DGTV!

[Tim Keith]

that will be cool kris!!!!!!

TK

[Parkntwoputt]

Well, since the Alabama Summer has set in, I will post the rules pertaining the hazardous conditions. Last look at the forecast, rain should not be a problem, maybe only for the first round. Lets keep our fingers crossed.



804.04 Rain or Hazardous Conditions
A. If, in the opinion of the director, excessive rain or hazardous conditions exist that make it impractical or dangerous to continue play, the tournament shall be suspended. The signal to suspend play shall be the same as the signal to start

B. Players shall immediately stop play and mark the lie of each member of the group. A natural object is sufficient to mark the approximate lie from which the player shall resume play. Players shall then return to the first teeing area, clubhouse, or area designated by the director.

C. Players shall resume play from their approximate lies as established when the round was halted. The approximate lie is determined by a majority of the group.

D. The director may allow players to take a break while waiting for weather to improve, but may require players to return each hour on the hour or at a time assigned by the director until play resumes or until the round is postponed.

E. The director may postpone the incomplete portion of the round for a later date if, in the director’s opinion, the conditions will not improve or if darkness will fall prior to the projected finish time.

F. Partial round scores shall be carried forward to the completion of the round whenever the round is resumed.

G. A player who stops playing before a signal to stop has been given shall receive two penalty throws if, in the opinion of the director, the player stopped playing prematurely.

[Parkntwoputt]

We have a lot of new players signing up for this event. (They are very brave to select this as their first tournament :o ).

Here is a link to the PDGA Rules of Play. These rules will be in effect for the tournament.

Assistant TD Addie Isbell will cover some of the common rules mistakes that casual players make that could get penalized in a tournament; ie properly marking your lie, holing out, etc.

http://www.pdga.com/rules/index.php

Read up...It is a fairly quick read.

[Justin L]

I think I'm going to use that rules of inclement weather peice as that space filler we were talking about last night....you don't think that will be some kind of curse do you? haha...

[Parkntwoputt]

ssshhhh......

You never mention rain during a tournament......

It's like saying "Candyman".




I think you should just put the legend and a logo on the page. No need for PDGA rules on there.

[Parkntwoputt]

After the tournament is over, I will field comments about how to improve the gold setup at George Ward Park.

However, any complaints before during and after the tournament will have to be preceeded by the Angry Rant by Chevy Chase on National Lampoons Christmas Vacation.

If you cannot recite the rant before stating your complaint then do not bother, I will not listen. I have it wrote down, so I will be able to tell if you got it right or were even close.


:p

["Tiger"]

thats not fair. I've never seen that movie :p

[Parkntwoputt]

thats not fair. I've never seen that movie :p

I am highly offended. That is one of the greatest Christmas movies ever made.


"Look kids, a deer":D

[Parkntwoputt]

Well, from the numbers I have, we are looking like there will be 40-45 people at this event!

But I keep hearing reports of more and more people wanting to show up at the last minute. Mobile Players, Huntsville Players, Atlanta Players, Nashville Players.....

This will not be a procrastinators event. 72 is the cap. The 73rd person will probably have to buy out someone elses spot from them.

I have 72 sign in cards made up. Once the last one is filled out, then that is it.

Don't wait until the last minute. I will be out all day on Friday, and we will start check in at 7:30am.

If there are 72 players, the rounds could take around 3.5 hours to play. Bring your stool!

[M Bose]

Kris,
Do we need to come on to the course tomorrow evening and pay to insure our spots? I don't want to get there and not be able to play.
Thanks

[Parkntwoputt]

Kris,
Do we need to come on to the course tomorrow evening and pay to insure our spots? I don't want to get there and not be able to play.
Thanks

Considering the only way to secure a spot is to pre pay.

Then yes.

I will be out there all day, getting the course prepared. As long as there is work to do I will be out there, rain or shine. However if the course is finished, and the rain and lightning get too bad I may have to leave.

I will probably hole up at Guiseppies near UAB on 10th Ave right down the road from George Ward. Call my cell phone when you get to the course.

The cut off for me accepting checks is 4pm.

[M Bose]

Is the 706-1301 number your cell? I didn't realize you had to send a check to
secure the spot or I would have took the chance and sent it Tuesday when we decided we could make it. I told you on a previous post that I was bringing cash, how late can I do that. I'm really not to keen on driving three hours for nothing, then turning around and driving three more hours home. I'm working till one or two Friday and was planning on heading down when the kids get out of school. We would really like to play but it's beginning to sound like a big gamble and possibly a long ride for nothing. I'll check back here when I come in and call ya. If it looks like we can get in we will come on if not we'll just save the money and stay home.

[Parkntwoputt]

706-1301 is my cell phone number.

I will be at the course until the weather kicks me out. It looks like that will be shortly after 5pm according to the local forecast. But after (and a trip to cash the remaining checks I have currently) I will be at Guiseppies allowing people to sign up.

I honestly do not think this event will fill. We will likely have between 45-50 people playing. But I have enacted a cap on the field, so I have been encouraging people to preregister because like you said, I do not want people to drive 3-4 hours for nothing.

Is it possible to sign up on Saturday morning at the last minute? Well yes, however I just want people to be absolutely fully aware about the chance of them not getting in. But if you are here early on Saturday, check in starts at 7:30am, then you should be able to get in no problem. However I just know that some people will show up about 5 minutes to 9. I just do not want them mad at me if the event fills and they do not get in.

Come by today, or come early tomorrow. You should get in just fine, as two thirds of the people playing are paying tomorrow.

If you are coming in on Saturday morning and run into traffic problems which may cause you to be late, please give me a call, I will have my cell phone on me.

["Tiger"]

TK is unhuman. Damn lefty course :D

[Parkntwoputt]

TK is unhuman. Damn lefty course :D

I think the "Am" who is sitting in a cashing spot in Pro should keep his mouth shut.


Good Shooting Bagger. We will see you tomorrow on the par 60 setup.

["Tiger"]

lol, I'm just tryin to shoot consistantly, minus a couple of stupid OBs of course 8-)

[ditchell]

I followed the leader group for a little while yesterday and I too think that TK is inhuman. And the other 3 guys. They did things to 13 and 15 that bordered on obscene.

If any of those guys are reading this, thanks for letting us tag along... didn't really learn anything other than I'm not ready for any sort of tournament play, but it was fun.

Before that I watched the Ams, and I think I'll get to that level (at least the lower groups). It seemed to me everybody wanted to drive everything, but if i was playing with those draconian fairways I think I'd be putting and roccing 90% of the time. I sat by 1 and just watched drive after drive sail OB.

oh and I don't know if they'll show up but i told the local news station that i work at about the tourny. hopefully they'll run out and do a VO on you guys.. but I don't work in News so it was only a suggestion on my part.

[Hilltopper]

Hey! Not every am threw a driver off every tee pad. I can say for a fact that I threw backhand drives only on hole 2 and 7. I threw forehand drives only on 5 and 12. Didn't really help though.

Josh

PS It may not have been on those holes. I'm rather bad with numbers.

[Parkntwoputt]

I followed the leader group for a little while yesterday and I too think that TK is inhuman. And the other 3 guys. They did things to 13 and 15 that bordered on obscene.

TK has been playing well lately, and extremely well today. Randy and Hanan "cooled" him off after the awards ceremony though. That was hilarious.

If any of those guys are reading this, thanks for letting us tag along... didn't really learn anything other than I'm not ready for any sort of tournament play, but it was fun.

Especially if you have not been playing for long, or have not been playing tournaments don't judge your ability based the performance of the top card during the final round of a tournament....These guys are playing at another level. If you want to judge your ability based on tournament results, look at the guys playing in their first tournaments, and how they are doing. Everyone starts somewhere. There was a time (albiet a very long time ago) when TK could not throw 200ft in a straight line or hit a putt outside 15ft.

Before that I watched the Ams, and I think I'll get to that level (at least the lower groups). It seemed to me everybody wanted to drive everything, but if i was playing with those draconian fairways I think I'd be putting and roccing 90% of the time. I sat by 1 and just watched drive after drive sail OB.

Also going along with my above comment, in general the Am's cannot throw as far as the pros. So this also means that they cannot throw their midranges as far and as accurate as pros. So on a 270ft hole like #1, Pros can throw a more controllable midrange where the Am's, just to reach the distance would have to throw a driver, hence, less control and also more OB's.

TK was the only one to shoot under the course par of 176 for the three rounds; 58,58,60. SSA or scratch golf, what a 1000 rated round would be and the basis for how we judge ourselves was respectably 60,60,62.

This was an incredible course for how it played out I did not hear any complaints about the difficulty or the risk/reward opportunities, there were -0- easy holes. As soon as I get some time I will enter the scores in a spread sheet and find out how each hole played for each division.

[Parkntwoputt]

Congradulations goes out to the winners of the two divisions at The Golden George.

Huntsville natives David Hunt eeked out Chris Jaskolka for the top spot in the Saturday only Advanced division with a +23 139.:D

In the Open division, Birminghams Tim Keith assualted the field and the course with a smoking -14 162 for the weekend:eek: . He was 17 strokes ahead of his nearest competitor, Birminghams Tom Monroe.

Congradulations Tim!

I want to say thanks to all the people that helped me with this event, with out them, I could not have gotten it done.

(No certain order, just in the order I am thinking of them)
Tom Monroe
Tim Keith
Viktor Holmberg
Chris Jaskolka
Justin Littrell
Jeremy Drake
Hanan Browning
Addie Isbell
Michelle Allen
David Hunt
David Glass
Josh Lenox
Marla Lenox

If I have left anybody off I am extremely sorry but I am exhausted an my mind is fuzzy. It has been a long tough weekend. Thank you everyone for coming out and playing, when we started planning this tournament back in the fall, we were expecting maybe 20-25 players and we ended up with 66 people! It was almost a full tournament, that was a lot of people punishing their self esteem for our state rep spot.

[Parkntwoputt]

Results are posted at pdga.com

http://www.pdga.com/tournament/tournament_results.php?TournID=5641&year=2006&includeRatings=1#Open

["Tiger"]

Thanks for doing this tournament kris. It was a great experience, well designed, tough course, and a lot of fun. I look forward to seeing this tournament in the future and who knows maybe we'll even get trussville involved :cool:

[Tim Keith]

thanks kris and everyone involved with this tourny, it couldn't have ran any smoother, you guys did a great job. i am still in shock that i won! I did not expect it at all. I hope i can play that well at the USDGC. thanks again to all involved.

TK

[reggaB]

Congrats Tim on the win!!

You guys could not have picked a better person to rep Alabama at USDGC.


Having played against Tim in the past I would have to say he is a heck of a golfer and a "class act" to boot.

Tear it up at the USDGC Tim!!



Later,

Mike Dammes

[Jtrain]

Just want to say thanks for all the hard work everyone put in to this tournament. Just wished i could have stayed in bounds a little more (as do a few others i imagine.) It was a great tournament. Hope you guys have a couple more tourny at GW park.
Great job to everyone who made this happen.
Hope to see all you guys at the RCB next month.
Jason

[M Bose]

Just wanted to say thanks to the folks in "The Ham" that made this tourney
happen. You all done an excellent job on everything. Really hope to see this layout again, it was tough but really exciting. Kris that was one heck of a brain-child, it must have been awesome to see it happen.
Thanks again everyone.

[Parkntwoputt]

Actually the best part was seeing 66 people show up, and to see 66 people go home beaten, broken, but happy.

It was great, there was no complaints, especially about the course design and fairness. I entered all the scores into a spreadsheet and the Open scores distributed almost exactly how I intended. The Am's however got spanked left and right by every hole, there was no easy hole for the Am's and the easiest hole for the Pros, was #12 which averaged a 3.25. I succeeded with no Par 2's! There was 4 eagles on hole #13 for the weekend in the open division, we may need to change that, but the scoring average was still over 4.

I am going to try and post the spreadsheet but I have to get with Justin on that one. But on Sunday's round, the 700ft monster "Mini 888" averaged a 5.94 for the pros.

Thank you for making the trip down to Birmingham to test you game. It was a great experience and it was wonderful to see everyone happy. This was definately a course where you could not lose your cool on or else you were sailing into double digits on the hole.

[Parkntwoputt]

Here it is....

This will tell you where you sat compared to the pros on a hole-by-hole basis.

16L and 17L are Sunday's setup.

http://www.discgolfbirmingham.com/files/TGG_2006/tgg_scoring.JPG

["Tiger"]

Kris, do you still have the scorecards? cause if so I'd like to get my individual rounds. I forgot to write down the last two in my caddieguide

[Parkntwoputt]

Kris, do you still have the scorecards? cause if so I'd like to get my individual rounds. I forgot to write down the last two in my caddieguide


That depends....how much are they worth to you?:cool:

[Cotton Pickin' Bill]

Thanks Kris for a GREAT event. I had a blast, that was a fun format. I have noticed that the round ratings have been removed from the PDGA website. What's up with that?

[ditchell]

whoa. how exactly do you get a 17 on #3?

[Parkntwoputt]

It was a case where the guy refused to take a drop where his disc crossed OB and continued to Retee.

Same thing happend on #4, #5, #8, #15 and #16.

["Tiger"]

It was a case where the guy refused to take a drop where his disc crossed OB and continued to Retee.

Same thing happend on #4, #5, #8, #15 and #16.

Yeah I was in the group behind him. It was freaking hilarious. Note to self, never lose your cool... you could turn a circle 4 into a quadruple plus circle 17 :cool:

[Parkntwoputt]

Yeah it was hard not to laugh. After the holes were completed we just trusted what he told us. There were so many circles that it became impossible to keep track of.